They are totally self-sufficient, one of about 8 university athletic departments to operate that way. I think most teams would feel that he quit on his team for 400,000 personal reasons a year. Do you think hitters should just concede their at bat so pitchers do not have to throw so many pitches? BREAKING: @LSUbaseball is hiring @Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson as its new pitching coach, sources tell @d1baseball. Johnson was in the midst of his fourth season with the Twins before leaving for LSU. It's my family, two. Samuel, how often do you see a complete game now? Success where is that? twins still dont have a true ACE.. if your are playing to be relevant.. Wes has done a good job It you are pitching to be a true contender Wes and the Dynamic duo are striking out.. Twins starting pitcher Joe Ryan looked at his phone and saw a message on a text thread with his high school and college coach. MLB used to look at their pitchers as assets and wanted them as healthy as possible. Unaware of the shocking news that was coming 24 hours later, Twins right-hander Chris Archer praised Johnson after throwing five shutout innings Saturday against the Rockies, saying Johnsons coaching and support have played a huge role in his improved health and return to effectiveness after several years wrecked by career-threatening injuries. If Maki succeeds, it would make a lot of sense to have him continue on in the role past 2022. "He really helped re-instill confidence in me every day," Archer said. The Twins Are Still Two Steps Away From Contending, Carlos Correa Is Saying All The Right Things. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER. The story is worth checking out, for a number of reasons, but what struck me in reading about it is what it reveals about the compensation for coaches, and what it says about how they are valued. "I sent (the screenshot) to a couple of the other guys, and other guys had just seen it, and it spread like wildfire," Smeltzer said. Term sheet for Eno Sarris and Zach Buchanan have a story at The Athletic about the move, and what it possibly means for other coaches and other teams going forward. His former coach responded with a screenshot of a tweet from college baseball reporter Kendall Rogers: Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson was leaving for the same position at LSU. When Falvey hired Johnson in the spring of 2019 to be Minnesota's pitching coach, Johnson became the first coach to make a direct college-to-the-majors jump since 1979, according to Baseball America. Managers only have so many options to work with if these guys are unhappy with how theyre handled they can go work someplace else. Perhaps the oddest part, is that the Twins have 89 games left in their season. Johnson will join Jay Johnsons coaching staff at LSU, who, again are not currently playing baseball since the college baseball season just ended. Instead, teams are paying coaches the equivalent of slot value for a sixth round draft pick. You make a lot of sense! Hes done that many times over for us.. The problem is not how pitchers are handled its that they dont know how to actually pitch. If you dont know the difference theres no point in arguing with anyone here about it. Hence, the Yankees were out of the race. Johnson was a hit, as the Twins won division titles in 2019 and '20. Just interesting because of the unusual nature of an active MLB pitching coach being involved. Next. College baseball has evolved as much as football and basketball, that you see former players (Reggie Willits, Matt Holliday, Tim Hudson) taking/leaving professional jobs in order to teach/work in colleges now. The Twins pulled together impromptu meetings at the hotel, where Baldelli, Johnson and President of Baseball Operations Derek Falvey confirmed the reports. If this is unethical what would you call pitching in the 1990s and earlier? I expect hell be successful at LSU and continue there or at other elite college programs for as long as he wants. Uh, free market capitalism and a good lawyer would make that difficult. LSU released Johnson's contract information to The Advertiser on Monday after a public records request. Their final start together was Tuesday, another six-inning outing in which Smeltzer allowed one run on four hits with nine strikeouts. It will take a lot of success to overcome that. While a Twins source said pay and resources were not an issue in Johnson leaving, a coach leaving the majors for a college gig does put into question how MLB clubs are compensating coaches. When LSU head coach Jay Johnson was still at Arizona, the program hired Nate Yeskie from Oregon State as their pitching coach, who was also courted by the Yankees at that time. Sometimes those answers are very easy, sometimes they are more complex.". Johnson will join Jay Johnsons staff at LSU, replacing pitching coach Jason Kelly, who was hired as head coach at the University of Washington last week. Multiple industry sources said total compensatory package potentially in Sources told @DanHayesMLB he was making about $400K with the Twins. * 21+ (19+ CA-ONT) (18+ NH/WY). 30 years ago managers and coaches would have been fired for the way they handle pitchers today. It has also put the Twins in a tough spot, having to replace a key staff member by Friday once Johnson officially leaves after this series. 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The content on this site is for entertainment and educational purposes only. Let your Yes be Yes, and your no be no! On Monday, it was reported by The Athletic that his new salary would be worth double what he was making with the Twins. I couldnt leave fast enough. If you know how to pitch, you dont need to throw everything at 100mph, and you dont blow out your arm. In three-plus seasons with Johnson as pitching coach, the Twins ranked No. The college coach makes $400,000 more then the same position in MLB? Hes moving from Minnesota to Louisiana. Theres almost no chance a booster is calling the dugout if Johnson wants to send his ace out into the eighth inning. That doesnt appear to be what happened, though. That's when the players' smartphones began lighting up. The 29-year-old right-hander could be dealt by the salary-shedding As by the Aug. 2 trade deadline, joining Matt Olson, Matt Chapman, Chris Bassitt and Sean Manaea, who were jettisoned earlier this year in moves that cut payroll to a major league-low $48 million on opening day. "It was a lot more emotional than I thought it would be," Smeltzer said. Who is back? Subscribe to The Athletic for in-depth coverage of your favorite players, teams, leagues and clubs. Hes just really happy for me. Major league coaches particularly a hitting or pitching coach generally arent going to jump ship mid-season. Despite that caveat, Baldelli expressed confidence in the midseason change: "Our guys will adapt well to this," he said Thursday. Pete (Maki) and I have kind of had that dialogue (about preferences and terminology) through my entire time with the Twins," Ryan said. Thats pretty normal. It was added later. Id imagine any major position on that staff would be considered a major win. "I got pretty choked up when I came out and got that hug for the last time. Are you talking about Wes? The article said there is a hardening of cartilage in pitchers arms until the age of 25. And unlike players, teams dont get six years of control with coaches. But after a records request at the school was fulfilled later in the afternoon, were finding that not to be the case at all. It also explains how colleges provide additional revenue streams aside from the base salary (which Sarris and Buchanan say is $388,000 for LSU) to make the overall package richer than what is publicly reported by the schools. No worse than a team firing a coach in midseason. They said they'd wait until they got to Cleveland to address it. One pitching coach or hitting coach, teams appear to believe, is largely no different than any other pitching or hitting coach in the overall available pool of coaches. "I have priorities in my life, and I don't hide those. He also writes for Bring Me The News and The Viking Age and hosts The Homer Horn Podcast. Its clear that Wes Johnson was motivated to leave the Minnesota Twins. But it doesnt make it right. Going one step further: MLB is burning out their pitchers. Johnson will indeed leave for LSU when the Twins series in Cleveland concludes on Thursday. most-competitive league in the world, yet Johnson was only making $350K several years into his gig. 750k to be a college pitching coach? None of it made sense. Holy snikees. Well, Davey Johnson made Dwight Gooden pitch complete game after complete game with the Mets and ruined his career. I dont try to play pitching coach, Baldelli said earlier this month. He probably had one more card game with Hank Conger on the team flight, his usual practice, and he surely exchanged some warm embraces and goodbyes. If LSU does not win and dominate pitching he will be on the hot seat. Wes Johnson will begin his tenure at LSU later this week after coaching the Twins in their five-game series against the Cleveland Guardians. Theres something terribly unethical about the way pitchers are expected to throw. 2023 Minute Media - All Rights Reserved. He called him an effective "translator. 1, but Twins fans will pound the table for additional pitching help []. Matt Shoemaker blamed the Twins coaching staff for his performance during the 2021 season. Theres often a lot movement between professional and college baseball.just maybe not this newsworthy and high profile. He wanted to go all-in with his new role. Not really a lateral move. Maki, the teams bullpen coach, has been with the organization since 2017 when he was hired as the teams minor league pitching coach. If changing jobs reflects badly on someones character, most fall into that category. 6 so far this season. Right now is when most schools are doing their hiring. All rights reserved. I tell people my priorities. Minnesota Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson has informed the club he will leave his job this week, reportedly for the same role at LSU. talks between the Twins and Johnson were more about what might make [the] job more appealing to Johnson, and he didnt ask the club for more money. And it's baseball, three. While it is surprising, LSU is one of the premiere programs and he will see a steady supply of top talent with a lot more job security. The Lafayette Daily Advertiser reported Johnson's LSU contract has a $380,000 yearly base salary for three years, plus a $800 per month vehicle allowance and $25,000 relocation incentive. He signed a three-year, $1.14-million deal with LSU, but that's before considering any incentive clauses, which can be sizable at the college level. Who will step up? That happens all the time. You kind of get back down to the plan of what youre trying to accomplish when you get out there on the mound. Then checked if the account that tweeted it was verified. Doesnt sound like its known what his status is for the rest of the season. As the Twins flew to Cleveland on Sunday evening, players were shocked to learn many of them via social media that Wes Johnson was leaving their first-place team for a college job. Wes Johnson has been the Twins pitching coach since the start of the 2019 season. Three Rangers prospect are included in the Baseball America top 100 prospect list, Baseball America has their top 10 prospect list for the Rangers out, Eno Sarris and Zach Buchanan have a story at The Athletic. The fact that major league coaches Who is back? So not only will Johnson be at a level thats more comfortable for him and where he has more experience, hell also be closer to family with a likely pay raise headed his way: Wes Johnson said spending more time with his family was the primary factor in his decision to take the job with LSU. Smeltzer said Johnson was good at communicating complex data from the front office in easy-to-digest ways. May 8 2018 Exercised $6.13 million option with Los Angeles (LAC) for 2018-19. Its not surprising that he is going back to the SEC, especially when you consider he will get more money, have less travel, and be closer to home. Good point, and I know with football taking a hit, they need some big hires to at least make the appearances that the program is ascending. Its because they dont know how to pitch these days. "The success he has had at the highest level of baseball speaks to Wes ability to communicate, teach, develop and motivate.". Its easier to let the deep pockets of college baseball boosters poach members of the staff rather than overpay for coaches that rarely last more than a couple of seasons. I wrote the comment prior to the addition of the pay section in the narrative, but for the college to pay twice as much a pro team for the same title coach is a tad unexpected, although not unheard of. Instead, Johnson will make near the same money ($380K/yr + incentives) with his new collegiate employer, as what he was making with the Twins. An extra 400k a year and less miles pressure. Hes worked with Johnson for the last two years since he was promoted to the Major League staff, and its likely that Maki will be given the interim tag going forward. ", For Smeltzer, the loss is more about personality and communication. All picks and predictions are suggestions only. Johnson has been the Twins pitching coach since he left the University of Arkansas in 2019. 7 among AL teams in ERA, including No. If he is successful down there, next he can run for the US Senate. Report: Brewers, Brian Anderson agree to 1-year, $3.5M deal. In many ways they are to college baseball what KU, Duke, North Carolina, etc are to college basketball. LSU baseball pitching coach Wes Johnson, who was hired Monday evening, has signed his three-year contract worth $1.14 million. The term sheet has a $380,000 annual base salary through June 2025. Leaving the Minnesota Twins, who reportedly had Johnson on a salary near $400,000, he now has the chance to eclipse that figure with postseason incentives. Although they made a trade to acquire Jake Odorizzi, nobody reached their full potential until Johnson came aboard in 2019. He will now be paid $750,000 per year by LSU, sources confirmed. This looks like an aggressive move from a perennially powerful college baseball franchise. All advice, including picks and predictions, is based on individual commentators opinions and not that of Minute Media or its related brands. The 50-year-old and his wife, Angie, have three children: Ryan, Anna and Ava. Seems weird he'd leave a first-place MLB team in the middle of the season. The minimum salary for an MLB player was $570,500 in 2021, while under the new CBA, the minimum salary is now $700,000. 6:30PM: In a surprise midseason move, Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson is leaving the team to return to the college ranks, as D1 Baseballs Kendall Rogers (Twitter link) reports that Johnson has been hired as LSUs new pitching coach. Can be a lot more satisfying. The value of a marginal win on the free agent market for players has been discussed for years now, and while marginal win value isnt linear for an individual player (a 0 win to 1 win delta for a player has less value than a 3 win to 4 win delta, for example) and depends on each individual teams situation, we can comfortably say that a marginal win is going to be valued at somewhere from $5 to $10 million. LSU, meanwhile, was very aggressive in recruiting Johnson. The Twins COULD have held onto his services until the expiration of his contract. Megan Ryan is a Minnesota Twins beat reporter. Johnson didn't have a chance between Sunday's game and flight to properly inform the team before the news leaked. I appreciate that. He currently resides in The plan is for Johnson to stick around with the Twins through their upcoming five-game series against the Cleveland Guardians, and leave for LSU after June 30. Sure, Johnson has family in the south and life as a pitching coach in the NCAA may be less-taxing too. Simultaneously, the head coach of the womens basketball program, the schools biggest money loser, got her salary more than doubled from $500,000 to over $1.1 million. The term sheet he was granted shows a much smaller salary for Wes Johnson, than the $750K first reported. However, it may have created an issue within the clubhouse. Beyond the plan, are we executing the plan? It's unmatched. Interesting that he leaves in the middle of the Year considering the college season wont start until well after the Major League baseball season is over. I wonder what he is making as a pitching coach for the Tigers and how much he turned down to go to UM. Bingo. He went to Smithers for rehab and it gave him a break from pitching so many complete games. When Falvey and Levine took over the Twins, the cupboard was bare in terms of quality pitching. While Johnson said the move was family-driven, he will earn more than his Twins salary, which was a bit north of $350,000, according to a source. It may be a game but its still business. Johnson reportedly received an annual salary around $350,000 from the Twins when he left the University of Arkansas for MLB in November 2018. Then he'll make his way to Louisiana to prepare for his second act as a college coach. I give credit to Wes for helping turn a lot of meh Twins pitchers into pretty okay Twins pitchers. 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