RIP. Comments upthread didn't draw insults to the suggestion that N928JP may have experienced diminishing lift due to contamination accumulation on flight surfaces that built up during two approach attempts in light snow and mist.This part of what you wrote seemed odd, however:"Ice on the rotor and starter blades"Turbine engines have sets of rotor and stator blades. (Nobody commenting here so far has indicated that they looked closely and noticed the tolerance associated with specific obstruction records in the obstruction database, so it's time to shine a light on declared tolerances there. The Newmar Dutch Star is available in 37-, 40-, and 43-foot coaches. Operate below MDA at your own risk.. For one ADSB tracks are not reliable, for two how incompetent of .gov to put a stack right on short final. "still baffling how one of them died. (or the overcast). E.g. 0:06. According to the operator, the pilot was transporting cargo on an instrument flight rules flight from the Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC), Salt Lake City, Utah, to the Burley Municipal Airport (BYI), Burley, Idaho. Maybe she saw the snake river and runway but didn't see the stack? It is unfortunate that Mr. Minter was in an airplane accident, but the stories so far have not discovered his interest and involvement in aviation:"Raised in Santa Monica, Minter served in The United States Marine Corps. The plant releases huge quantities of hot water vapour through stacks, (industrial chimneys). That's the only certainty we have at this stage about its position. If the stacks are putting out a bunch of smoke and steam, I can see how you could easily hit them despite them having red anti-collision lighting (according to the obstacle database at least.). Recently she appeared on Los Angeles television representing airport interests in a debate with the Airport Neighbors Association. Prayers for this family and those impacted by this tragedy. The view under the wing would give you about a mile as reported at the airport. Hi, thanks for the info and the link. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. The vapour warms the air as it cools and condenses, a process accentuated by a cold day. Brittney often told those who had the privilege of flying with her that she never felt closer to heaven than she did when flying. @Cmor - Using 1 mile visibility was incorrect in your reply to that commenter.The 14:25Z AWOS report of 1 1/2SM visibility is displaced 5,260 feet toward the aircraft by the time the aircraft came into view of the camera at Gem more than 7 minutes later at 14:32:25 if you are applying the 7 knot wind as positional displacement downwind based on time elapsed after individual AWOS condition reports.1425Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028AWOS shows 1SM, 1 1/2SM, 2SM visibility progression:KBYI 131420Z AUTO 20007KT 1SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC026 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131425Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131430Z AUTO 20007KT 2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997. The private pilot and flight instructor were fatally injured. VIDEO! The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. How could anyone be up here, see Gods creation, and doubt His love? she had asked. Minter was elected to the Santa Monica City Council in 1955 and served as mayor from 1963-1967. AWOS data typically includes ceiling and sky conditions, visibility, temperature, dew point, altimeter setting and wind speed, gusts and direction, ASOS can additionally provide the type and intensity of precipitation (rain, snow, freezing rain), and obstructions to visibility such as fog and haze. This map-pin location is Gossner's Elevators:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.54918+-113.76041Street view:https://goo.gl/maps/2hJ8XhWHUTENBvEa8Here are all of the HEYBURN obstacles of the 16-ID.dat obstacle database file, with map-pin and street view images after converting HH:MM:SS.SS GPS coordinates to decimal:That 140 foot radio tower near the United Metals Recycling plant is:16-022120 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 31.30N 113 44 53.73W TOWER 1 00140 04291 N 1 D N 2020ANM06806OE C 2021126maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.558694+-113.748258#16-036731 is the crashed into stack, as already noted.#16-036732 thru 16-036737 are 100', 4256' MSL Gem stacks:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.551047+-113.760189And this 37' high tank is by the tracks at 7th Ave:16-036750 O US ID HEYBURN 42 32 58.11N 113 45 47.84W TANK 1 00037 04187 R 4 D P 2017ANM00600OE C 2018029 maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.549475+-113.763289Street view:https://goo.gl/maps/zMVhwxePeR5Em32J7Elevators 124' high, NorthEast of Gem:16-000258 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 17.33N 113 45 16.64W ELEVATOR 1 00124 04282 R 1 A N 0076_NW00104OE C 2013291maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.554814+-113.754622Street view:https://goo.gl/maps/zRAEzTUpo3y2PpmJ6But these across the tracks are not in the database:https://goo.gl/maps/1ZD8aeGhy2Y1CsdEAAnd this tower, Google maps doesn't show:16-051497 U US ID HEYBURN 42 32 27.89N 113 45 01.48W TOWER 1 00125 04279 N 4 D N 2019ANM02334OE A 2020084maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.541081+-113.750411. Well-stated, very good bias what-if scenario. Brittney is survived by her parents, Sharon and Jim Bob Infanger, her siblings, Craig Infanger (Daria); Emily Goodrich (Robert); Branden Infanger (Annie); Jayden Infanger; Erica Hill (Taylor); Adrienne Rochleau (Chris); and her loving nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles and cousins. Couple years ago we hired an attractive young lady, a flight instructor, to fly Caravans at our single-pilot Pt.135 operation. Skydive Kauai Cessna 182 crash NTSB final report. I wouldn't start speculating that they hit the silos, without proof, because those of us who live there see no indication that the silos or cooling towers were touched. Also the color of the building itself? Notice the visibility when looking at a distance horizontally in the 25 to 28 and 44 to 47 second portions of the video. Made a first approach over the known obstacles that revealed the circumstances of what is being portrayed as dangerous wall of steam but didn't divert after going missed from the first approach. . At that point, runway or runway lighting were visible but not necessarily the thin grey stack in between. It's very possible she could see the runway but wasn't seeing the smoke stack for various reasons, Perhaps was not following the flight director and passing weather unexpectedly started dropping heavier mist and snow just long enough to obscure visual.Here is the NEXRAD weather playback for the 1400 to 1500Z period, with BYI's location marked. He then botched the landing by coming up short in the surf. She received her private flying license in high school. If so, should have gone missed a second time. The lateral accuracy code "4" makes the horizontal tolerance of the location +/- 250 feet. A Cessna 182 left Meridian, Mississippi, at 4:21 p.m. CDT, bound for Columbus, Georgia, with two aboard. they should be held to some degree of accountability for these life and death decisions they make to put these mostly inexperienced pilots in life or death situations. Even if you were trying to duck under, you aren't ducking at -857/min at 4800 ft. (Jamid) MDA 4560 which is 240 ft then another 406 ft 4154 elevation - 646 fpm would get you there (at 90 knots). There are many approaches just as challenging, that's why you respect the MDA and you do not descend unless the runway is in sight. Please stop commenting on things you don't even comprehend or until you bother to understand the known facts. According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. A viewpoint location one quarter mile (1,320 feet) toward the airport from the stack (such as at Gossner's areas adjacent to 7th Avenue) would be very likely to see the approaching aircraft appear to descend into the water vapor plume, but viewpoint locations off to the side of the flight track or Northeast of the stacks have a different perspective.Plant has operated since 2011, so there has been a long period of opportunity where the water vapor plume from the dryer stacks were operating under similar weather conditions and subject to observation, photos and videos of plume behaviour in all wx conditions.Potato plant created artificial IFR conditions! The silos were within TERPS requirements. My guess is in the cold they are creating their own little obscuring weather system. He is an avid aviator, and his wife, Doris, is a member of the Ninety-Nines, the international organization of women pilots." Take this for what it is - some old pilot's opinion. Assuming the aircraft is indicating 7000 on the altimeter, when she went missed and flew the published missed approach, she was 50 feet lower than expected. Nothing was cut. The left wing, from the strut outboard, separated from the airplane and came to rest about 500 feet northeast of the main wreckage. The data point location after which the 4.1 descent angle increased to 6.5 is one statute mile from the threshold.The initial 4.1 descent angle compares favorably with the 3.8 to 3.9 angle the company's substitute pilot flew in VFR conditions from JAMID all the way to 7th Avenue just two days after the accident, but a notable difference is that the accident pilot's 88 knots airspeed was 40 knots slower while experiencing mist and light snow. Usually the pencil-thin outside air temperature gauge is the first place where ice forms on an airplane. An Airmens Meteorological Information (AIRMET) advisory was active for icing and mountain obscurations for areas that included BYI.By the way, the automated weather facility at KBYI is an ASOS, not AWOS. Witness who was close by said the 208 descended out of the clouds and immediately flew into the steam seconds before hitting the tower. The "airport shouldn't be there"I'm reminded of the jet that took off in CT short runway. "It was a 100% bound to happen eventuality." Not every pilot/operator does so, especially if its not required by the SOP.2. Updated: 4:45 p.m. A small plane crashed into the second story of a Hermantown home just before midnight Saturday night, killing three people on board. Also, if the pilot intended the first pass to inspect the runway surface and conditions, they would not have slowed down as much as on the final pass. Cessna 172 Skyhawk, N6238D, Skylane Aviation LLC: Fatal accident occurred March 26, 2016 at Yeager Airport (KCRW), Charleston, Kanawha County, West Virginia Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdf NTSB Identification: ERA16FA141 14 CFR . Former Santa Monica Mayor Rex Minter died when a small plane crashed on the beach just south of the Santa Monica Pier Thursday afternoon, officials confirmed. One more correction, 230 feet above the ground isn't 160 feet above the stack. Annual to April 2023. So if as you are saying she had the runway in sight, why on God's green earth was she 100 feet AGL a half-mile from the runway? Too bad comments on here are closed for that accident. Accident pilot: "I have to meet expectations and get this done"Interesting article reflecting on "completing the mission":https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.com/features/decision-making-for-pilots/. This is a place where we learn what not to do next time. Subsequently, the controller cleared the pilot for the RNAV runway 20 approach via the MALTT transition at BYI. )How far is the approach path above the smokestack? "How to tell us you aren't a pilot without telling us you aren't a pilot. KBYI has a 3.7 degree glidepath for obstacles, including the plant and the railroad brige, which would put her at 66.7 feet over the threshold and about 108 feet over the end of the displaced threshold. I watched a podcast a few days ago discussing a similar fatal ditching (N16JR) in the Santa Monica area that happened in 2006, the NTSB determined that the occupants were not wearing shoulder harnesses (because they didn't have any) and died due to drowning with complications from blunt force trauma. but the sight picture she had of the runway end brought her into the steam cloud. Apparently the mail must get through, despite the automated voice telling you "Minimums" and you don't have the runway. A highly paid government administrator owns that failure.Perhaps we should instead ask ourselves why our government prints money for the endless series of foreign wars and funding of every new citizen who wades across our southern border but we can't equip these airports with an ILS.Put 14 billion on it. 4 fatal. First of all, when is capitalism EVER unchecked? Remember, is was a cold, snowy morning, with very limited visibility, and according to the AWOS at the time of the crash, the temperature/dewpoint spread was only two degrees; in other words a very nearly saturated atmosphere. Kathryn S Report Cessna 320d Executive Skyknight N320mf Registered And Operated By Gv Air Inc Fatal Accident Occurred June 28 2018 In Fairfield Utah County Utah Following a structural failure, a 1992 Mooney M20M crashed in Victoria, Minnesota, last Saturday (August 7, 2021), while it was approaching to land at Flying Cloud (KFCM) Airport in Minnesota. Brittney had a special connection with her siblings and their children. About 0832:25, the airplane came into viewAccording to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, . He wanted to ban jets at SMO and ultimately close it. Video footage recovered from a security camera located on a processing plant revealed a view of the rooftop of the processing plant, along with a smokestack supported by steel framework on the roof. Thirty feet is not a big change in your analysis, but after verifying the stack is #16-036731 in the obstruction database, true height of 100 feet is the verified data. It increases the weight of the aircraft and changes the weight and balance. More Info. It's interesting to see search results reveal the unattributed copying that the error gives away.Posting the full source info link is a good practice that provides complete information in proper context. There is still data needed to determine amount of fuel in tanks. i blame it on the steam cloud. First, it is sad that we lost such a wonderful young lady who had nothing but love in her heart and who served others selflessly. Not exactly the type of volume that would create "a concentrated convective cell storm." It would be interesting to know if the FAA recommended to the plant that they voluntarily add a lighting system to that tall chimney or stack. Newer pilot here so my apologies for any ignorance. The ASOS facility is located 600' west of the runway 20 threshold, so I think the Caravan would have broken out approximately 4650' from the runway and just 2100' from the stack that was hit. Here's a link to the Aviation Safety Network report on the crash near Pine Grove, Oregon, USA on 09 January, 2021. Below is breaking video of the Cessna 421 crash in Broward County Oakland Park, in Florida. Brittney explored many hobbies throughout her life, including piano, athletics, fishing, and hunting. From finance to industry? Rest easy. The collision smokestack is 2,639' from the threshold (measured on Google Earth). Kathryn's Report: Judge Awards $11.9 Million in Suit Against Civil Air Patrol: Beechcraft 95-B55 Baron, N36638, Executive Aircraft Storage LLC, fatal accident occurred February 22, 2014 at LaGrange Callaway Airport (KLGC), Troup County, Georgia. Maybe Burley and the state of ID can get a 90% grant to build new from feds $3 billion in new funds for airports under Prez Biden and the Dem's passed infrastructure law. LINKS:Kathryn's Report: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/10/fatal-accident-occurred-october-11-2021.html#comment-formVasAviation: https://www.youtube.com/w. You're missing his point entirely. Recent Google Map views show a very sturdy tubular platform and ladder system was added around the stack sometime after 2016. it seems to me she became visual at or near the dh and continued the approach visually. Sometimes, a thin coating of ice will form on the windshield, preceded in some instances by frosting. Anyone know her duty schedule leading up to this accident? -- Source links --The accident flight:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYIThe diverted flight on April 12:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220412/1300Z/KSLC/KTWFRaw archive METARs for BYI & TWF, 12 & 13 April:https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/cgi-bin/request/asos.py?station=BYI&station=TWF&data=all&year1=2022&month1=4&day1=12&year2=2022&month2=4&day2=14&tz=Etc%2FUTC&format=onlycomma&latlon=no&elev=no&missing=M&trace=T&direct=no&report_type=1&report_type=2, There wasnt a lot of time for the pilot to set up the second approach prior to the really abbreviated vectors to the final approach. The dope pilot flew away from the airport for some time after declaring an emergency. Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. Regardless of the precise reasons for her own accident, the FAA, Burley Airfield authority, and the board of the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" have very serious questions to answer. The City is grateful for Mr. Minters public service and we join his family in mourning his passing, the city said in a news release. 2021 Milan airplane crash. The imgur caption has the correct runway number. Reply Delete. For whatever reason, she was below MDA, and I'm guessing they'll find fuel starvation. Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation CJ4, N614SB, fatal accident occurred December 29 . The two pilots in the PA-46, and the flight instructor and student pilot in the Cessna 172, were fatally injured. If she was at MDA at that moment, then the average descent angle from VMC to tower is close to 9 degrees. Brittney was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and served a mission in Birmingham, England from 2015-2017. If the obstacle surface allowed it, they would have put in an RNAV LPV approach to this airport instead of an LNAV, which would have been just as good if not better than an ILS. Sometimes it's relevant to the accident but most often than not, it just adds a layer of emotion that I can do without.When I look at this story, I tend to reason backwards: the Caravan hit a stack. Piper PA 31 Navajo Wikipedia FedEx FedEx Express Introduces New Feeder Aircraft May 14th, 2018 - Modernization of feeder fleet continues with Cessna SkyCourier 408 designed . The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulation Part 135 cargo flight. Tater plant has more political clout and money then a city owned airport. So short that they don't meet FAA safety standards. Her distraught father, Jim Bob Infanger (right), has said " Brittney knew the area well and flew to Burley International Airport all the time". Ditching in a foot or two of water thats spilling onto the sand, as he appeared to do, is so much easier than ditching outside the breakers where you would encounter wave crests and troughs. The airplane just came up a little bit short. But I admire the heck out of him! 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